As a leader, it’s essential to be aware of your own emotions and how they affect your team. Noble Gibbens can help you become a more effective leader by teaching you how to use emotional intelligence.

Noble Gibbens is the EQ Gangster and we're talking about emotional intelligence as part of our Christian faith and in our roles as leaders.

Emotional Intelligence

Emotional intelligence (EI) is the capacity to be aware of and manage one’s own emotions, and the emotions of others.

It has been shown that emotional intelligence can be a predictor of success in life, and leaders with high emotional intelligence have been shown to be more effective than those without it. There are many ways to develop and improve emotional intelligence, but one way is through training and education. 

Noble Gibbens offers courses that teach emotional intelligence and how it can be used to become a more effective leader. These courses can help you learn about yourself and others, and how to manage emotions in a way that leads to positive outcomes.

What is emotional intelligence?

In This Episode

  • Military leadership and emotional intelligence
  • Emotional health and spirituality
  • The impact of not having self-awareness of our own emotions
  • Three steps to improving  your emotional intelligence
  • How emotional intelligence can reduce turnover, improve employee engagement, and increase productivity
  • The impact that strong emotional intelligence skills have on your entire life
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Noble Gibbens, the EQ Gangster

Noble Gibbens is a veteran of the U.S. Army and graduated from West Point. Earning the coveted Ranger tab, Noble is no stranger to leadership, excellence, and working with teams.

How did Noble become an expert on emotional intelligence and help leaders around the world do the same? It was his own need that drove his growth. Addicted to people-pleasing, Noble found himself in a rut working within a toxic work environment. His lack of emotional intelligence was taking a toll on his marriage and family.

Dedicating himself to gaining more self-awareness on emotions and interpersonal relationships, Noble acquired certifications and expertise to be able to pay it forward as an executive coach. Through emotional intelligence, we can improve every area of our lives, and Noble helps teams do that.

Noble also loves tacos and enjoys snowboarding with his family.

Noble’s “Taco Talk”

Resources and Links

EQ Gangster is also a proud member of the Lima Charlie Network, a group of veteran (or veteran-friendly) podcasters, whose mission is to empower others in the areas of leadership, self-development, and communication. 

Follow Noble on YouTube where you can watch his interactions with insightful guests on emotional intelligence.

Emotional Intelligence 2.0 by Travis Bradberry and Jean Greaves is the model discussed in this episode about emotional intelligence. Noble Gibbens is a certified facilitator, and you can reach out to him to see if his services are a good fit for your team’s needs.

Emotionally Healthy Spirituality by Peter Scazzaro discusses the importance of emotional health as part of one’s striving for spiritual maturity.

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Emotional Intelligence and Building Emotional Capital – BtR 029

Episode Credits

Host, Editing, and Production: Jerry Dugan

Transcript

Noble Gibbens  00:00

What I recommend to people is how do you begin a new habit? Attach it to a habit you’ve already got. It is impossible to be spiritually mature while remaining emotionally immature. And that that was the story of my life.

Jerry Dugan  00:15

Hey, Rutter Nation! Welcome to another episode of Beyond the Rut, the podcast that shares encouraging stories and practical tools to help pull you out of your rut and into a life worth living. I’m your host, Jerry Dugan, and we’re going to be joined by the EQ Gangster himself, Noble Gibbens. You know, it’s been said that the one common trait of all great leaders is emotional intelligence. Emotional Intelligence is that ability to be aware and understand your own emotions and the emotions of others. After all, we don’t quit our jobs, we quit our leaders, right? Noble helps leadership teams gain awareness of their own emotional wakes and create action plans to improve how they engage with their teams for improved employee retention, increased engagement and higher performance. So, join us as we have a discussion on how emotional maturity and self awareness will make us better leaders. Here we go.  All right. Hey, noble, how are you doing?

Noble Gibbens  01:12

JERRY! Oh, man, it’s great to see you brother.

Jerry Dugan  01:16

Yes, yes, I finally got the signature Noble entry into a podcast episode, everybody. So, for those of you watching on YouTube, you just saw it. For those listening in on everything else audio, you gotta go check out our YouTube channel because then you’ll see what Noble just did. I see him do it on his show. I’ve seen him do it on Llama Lounge. I see him doing everywhere he’s been. So Noble, awesome to have you on here. Where are you calling in from?

Noble Gibbens  01:40

Colorado Springs, Colorado.

Jerry Dugan  01:42

Good hiking up there. Trying to convince my wife to let me go up there.

Noble Gibbens  01:46

You guys got to come visit!

Jerry Dugan  01:47

Yeah. So you and I know each other through Lima Charlie network. And it’s a group of podcasters. Most of us are veterans. Some of them are active duty Air Force, we forgive them. And we even have a civilian who we love more than the other guys, Shay Sparks from The Power of Investing in People. And it’s a great group of guys very supportive. And so yeah, Noble, you got one of the shows EQ Gangster. And, you know, it’s always the like, I listened to your show, and it just kind of hit me like one day, I’m like, wait, this guy talks about emotional intelligence, like every week, tells a story about how emotional intelligence became a big part of his life. And then like, I have a show here, that’s about helping listeners pull themselves out of the rut, whether it’s in their faith, their family life, maybe it’s their fitness on either a spiritual, emotional or physical level, their personal finances, or just their outlook on future possibility. And all these things take some level of emotional intelligence. And what if our rut is because we don’t have the self awareness of how we’re bringing ourselves to the table, into relationships into business and so on. And I’m like, Man, if only I knew somebody who talked about emotional intelligence, a lot, you popped up on my feed. I’m like, Jerry, you’ve known Nobel for about a year now. Get him on the show. So I’m glad you said yes. You just got back into the country from a mission trip. And so the timing of this interview is perfect. So thank you all that to say thank you for joining us right now.

Noble Gibbens  02:02

So there you go. That pleasure to be here, man. Thanks for having me. Really appreciate it, Jerry. Awesome.

Jerry Dugan  03:25

Now, you also did some time in the Army. Is that right?

Noble Gibbens  03:28

I did. Yes, exactly.

Jerry Dugan  03:30

That’s why I like you. Because it’s not like Coast Guard or anything. Right, Brandon?

Noble Gibbens  03:38

Yeah, I was. I was infantry. I was in the 82nd Airborne Division and went to the Hudson Valley Home for Wayward Children, also, also known as West Point. And then I went to the Army’s elite weight loss program. I need to go through that again called Ranger School. Yes. One meal a day, every day. Airborne School and then again, I was stationed at second as an infantry officer in at Fort Bragg North Carolina. Yeah.

Jerry Dugan  04:05

And, Ranger School is no joke like, and this is coming from a guy who did not go to Ranger School. But I’ve got a lot of friends who went I got a buddy who he was a medic for the Ranger School. So he was like with 4th Ranger Battalion. Yeah, at Fort Benning. And so his job was taking care of the trainees who like fell off obstacles and stuff. And he invited my family out to see one of the graduations and I just thought the graduation alone they make you show off your skills so you’re like on like 100 foot pole going across a cable and dropping into that pond. I’m like, That’s after they’ve already done the things they had to do to graduate like this is just for fun now like tap the Ranger tab and fall in the water. I’m like, screw that man. No. I’m convinced the show Survivor was inspired maybe by Rangers, because you got your physical feats you gotta go through, right?

Noble Gibbens  04:54

Right.

Jerry Dugan  04:55

You got your training, like your skills and tasks, gotta pull off and show and demonstrate, but then there’s this like, social element where you vote each other off the island, right? It’s

Noble Gibbens  05:05

Right! Peer reviews.

Jerry Dugan  05:07

Yes. So it’s like, who’s a good leader here? This guy, this guy, this guy, well, who’s a sucky leader who needs to be out of here? That guy and they all point the guy out, it’s like, it doesn’t matter how good you are. If you suck at building relationships, you’re out. That’s right. And so how much of that carries over into the work you do today with emotional intelligence? Like what is emotional intelligence? I think, in case somebody really doesn’t know what that is, let’s start

Noble Gibbens  05:30

Sure. Yeah, so emotional intelligence, I’m going to use a couple of different layers of definitions. So. So my noble definition of emotional intelligence is the ability to acknowledge, identify, process and manage your own emotions, and the emotions of others. One of the old industry models of emotional intelligence is comprised of four different areas, self awareness, self management, social awareness, and social management.

Jerry Dugan  06:01

Those are the four I’m familiar with. So I like I’ll try to make it an acronym out of the thing you said first, that, but all I came up with was APEM, like I was…out, don’t know if I can make that work for you. But I’ll try. I’ll try.

Noble Gibbens  06:16

I love it. I love it.

Jerry Dugan  06:18

And so that that’s essentially what emotional intelligence is. But why is it important? Like, I mean, getting through ranger school like,

Noble Gibbens  06:26

yeah, no, that’s a great, that’s a great question. So the reality is, now this is all coming from being emotionally clueless for four decades. And I’m not I’m not exaggerating. So I just started my emotional growth journey, my emotional fitness program four years ago, every day for the past four years, I’ve been very intentional at emotional fitness program. So each you emotional intelligence, our emotional health, our emotional fitness impacts every single area of our life. And even physiologically, so every single decision that we make in our lives, regardless of the area, regardless of the area of life, that kind of thing, every single decision we make, goes through the emotion center of our brain, before it ever hits the logic center of our brain, whether or not you’re aware of that process happening, it is happening. So even for my hardcore, analytical, logical, process minded people, even for them, every decision they make goes through their emotion center their brain first and then to the logic center suite. It literally impacts every single decision we make.

Jerry Dugan  07:33

Yeah, guy named Dr. Kahneman got a Nobel Prize in 2012 proving that but no matter who you are, what you are, if you’re human, you will, you will process things on an emotional level first, no matter what, then lottery. Yeah, it’s a crucial conversations. I call that the lizard brain. Right? Yeah, it’s that reaction to things. And the key is to get Malcolm Gladwell talks about in his book, blink, that you’re making decisions within a split. Second split have a split second. Yeah, a lot of that is based off of past experiences tied in with emotion. And that emotion is that strong part that gets you to make a decision before even know the information that is being presented. And so, yeah, if what’s at risk if you’re not aware of that process happening?

Noble Gibbens  08:19

Oh, man, that’s an excellent question. So relationships, finances, fear. I mean, think about every major area of your life, every big rock in your life that’s at risk, right? My faith. My faith was totally impacted, hindered by my lack of emotional health and emotional intelligence, my marriage, my parenting, my finances, my fitness, my business, everything was was negatively impacted, hindered, limited by my lack of emotional maturity, and all my emotional dysfunction. Yeah, absolutely. 100%

Jerry Dugan  08:55

How would you say that your faith was impacted by emotional intelligence?

Noble Gibbens  08:59

Okay, so there is I’ve got it right here. There’s a book I strongly recommend folks check out we for those on YouTube. You can see it for those on the podcast. It’s called Emotionally Healthy Spirituality by Pete Scazzero. The tagline throat punches me to this day. It is redonkulous ly powerful and really describes my life in a nutshell prior to my emotional fitness, the tagline of the book is so that we’re going to title is Emotionally Healthy Spirituality. The tagline is, it is impossible to be spiritually mature while remaining emotionally immature. Yeah. And that that was a story of my life. I bro I’ve got sections of the Bible memorized. I’ve got I’ve been to church since I just about popped out of the womb. I’ve done all the right churchy stuff. Yeah 100% My faith was self sabotaged. Because of my emotional the emotional window that I viewed God through was from a three year old perspective, right? Yeah. And that’s how my emotional health and emotional intelligence impacted enroll limited my faith.

Jerry Dugan  10:10

Yeah. It’s like how are you going to say you’re mature if you if you know all the scriptures, you go to every church service, but the moment you walk out the church doors, you’re cussing out your kids in the car, or you’re cutting out somebody in the parking lot because they cut you off trying to get out to go to Cracker Barrel, or I don’t know what Cracker Barrel but just because for my family it was we were going to tacos. We’re getting tacos. Heck, yeah, right. I miss Cancun Mexican restaurant, by the way, but I’m back. I’m back, everybody. It’s in Corpus Christi. They got the screen sauce. Take my word for it. It’s awesome.

Noble Gibbens  10:43

I got it. I’ve got a tattoo of a taco. So I’m into tacos. I know you got like a taco emoji I still haven’t found on any social media platform. But you have a taco emoji and I’m like, I need a taco emoji. And a YouTube video called just just if you want to learn some deep stuff about life and tacos, just YouTube “Noble’s Taco Talk” and you will discover some deep stuff about life. You’ve never known before about tacos.

Jerry Dugan  11:15

That will definitely be linked in the show notes, very important to include. Right up there with the green sauce from Cancun. Yeah, like what’s the point of like memorizing Scripture, go into every sermon, if you’re going to judge the next person you come across, because they’re a teen mother, or because they used to do drugs when they were younger or currently doing drugs? Or they just got a divorce? Like, what’s the point if you’re going to be judging others? Because of a knee jerk reaction, you’ve got some deep seated biases even so,

Noble Gibbens  11:50

yeah, well, here’s another another way that drum like it 100% impacted me as well. So I was because of my people pleasing addiction that I had for four decades. I I was a pretty good rule follower. So I would follow all the rules of the Bible. Yeah. And I was a good Christian Right, whatever that whatever that is, right. I would follow all the little rules and stuff and and then all the promises of God, because of my because of that, so that now that because of the dark side of the people pleasing addiction, well, I mean, there’s people pleasing addiction is all bad. But there were some behaviors that would look good to people. But it was all coming from a place of a pm an addict addiction, if you will, please. Yeah. But because because so the one of the downside behaviors was I, I will go there’s multiple, but one of them to two of them. One is, I always looked for the validation and approval of everyone else around me rather than my identity being in front in the Lord and Christ. I would tell you, Oh, Jerry, oh, no, my identity is a lord, oh, you just don’t understand how holy and righteous I am. But all my behaviors, were trying to get approval and validation from everyone around me. That’s number one. Number two is because of my insecurity and my self hatred and my self condemnation, and my imposter syndrome and all those other dysfunctions, when God would would give a promise in a Bible write all the promises of God, I was not ever able to embrace them, and own them, and act on them. Because I’m an owner, I’m, I’ve got too much sin and I’m to God, God’s grace is for everybody. But me because I’m too sinful. I’m too evil. And and, and so I was never able to think about this. Jerry, how many legit Bible believing believers that love Jesus are actually walking in the promises of God and living a victorious life in every area of their life? Well, yeah, a very, very small percentage. Right. And I would argue that some of the reason of that is because of some sort of emotional dysfunction that is impacting their spiritual walk.

Jerry Dugan  14:12

Yeah, I was just talking with In fact, it was the episode that just came out recently with Brian Crum. And he’s talking about how, you know, if we look at the power of our words, you know, the knots in our lives. I’m not smart enough. I’m not good enough. I’m not pretty enough. But if you remove the knots that hold us back or tie us up, now you’ve got I am smart enough. I am pretty enough. I am good enough. I am loved enough. I am loved. You know, it’s just like, yeah, it’s just anyway, that’s what he got me thinking about just now. And but yeah, there’s something emotionally that if we’re not aware of it, it’s either going to hold us back from those promises, or sabotage ourselves like, yeah, how many people do we know that gets fired from job after job because the moment that gets some sort of critique from somebody, anybody is by to their boss, I’ve got to stand by my principles and tell them where I am on this. And I am not bending whatsoever. Like, that’s a strong emotional response that says, I am right, I will prove I’m right, by standing firm and telling my boss, he or she is an idiot. And, and in the end, you know, one of these gotta give and you know, if you put your boss in the position where it’s like, well, now I’ve got like, team culture stuff to protect, I’ve got emotional safety to protect in everybody else on the team, this person just acted way out of line. It’s like, I’m sorry, but no, you cannot pick up a chair and threaten to hit anybody with it, you’re fired. It’s like, I know, people who get fired from jobs in their 30s and 40s. Because they have to, they have to have their outbursts, they have to be right. And they, they haven’t figured out that there’s some deep seated reaction to just a word, a phrase, somebody’s name. And so yeah, I mean, your relationships at home, are affected your faith walk with Jesus as affected your your career, or your business can be affected. Yeah. And how many people have lost jobs because of those outbursts lead? They weren’t aware of being triggered, and too, so. Right.

Noble Gibbens  16:08

Yeah, that’s right. And a lot of times, it’s it’s easier to see a lack of emotional intelligence than it is to see emotional intelligence. And so the thing that that I like to ask people that are not super familiar with the concept of emotional health or emotional intelligence is have you ever had an experience with with poor leadership? Oh, yeah. Right. And 99% of people have probably had some sort of experience with poor leadership. Well, my my, you know, guesstimate is the vast majority of those poor leadership examples, is a reflection of some sort of emotional dysfunction in that person’s life. Oh, yes, yes.

Jerry Dugan  16:49

And even on the flip side of that coin, like are all your bosses are supervisors, horrible supervisors? And if the answer is yes, that, in a sense, is a reflection into ourselves, like, Why is it every single boss I work for is horrible? Were they horrible? When I did the interview, and I was going to that brand new job? No. Oh, but at some point, within a year or two, I think my boss said the worst thing ever? Well, there’s something consistent on my part that’s coming to that conclusion. What is that? And how do I get past that? And that, but you got to acknowledge it first, right? That’s the first step that you talked about, you gotta acknowledge that that problem is there. So that you can go into the next piece, which is to tackle that problem and address what is the appropriate response to this, which I’m kind of jumping ahead, because I was going to ask you, what are some practical steps there to recognize where am i right now? Why am I reacting like this? So then, let’s say we do acknowledge our feelings, our emotions that are being triggered? What do we do next with that?

Noble Gibbens  17:46

Okay, so I’m gonna, I’m gonna back you up just a little bit, because most people have to do the first step of awareness, they’ve got to increase their awareness. Yeah, most people are not aware of how they’re feeling. Some are, and some are to a degree. But in terms of high self awareness, I, I do executive coaching for a living. So I work with a lot of leaders, big companies, big leaders, and in the military and stuff. And that is probably the number one thing that is lacking in many leaders, and most leaders, I would argue, is self awareness. And, and when you come across a leader who is not self aware, again, that is a good indicator of potentially poor leadership, because of the decision making process, again, without having that self awareness. So the first thing that I recommend to people to start working on your self awareness. So how do you do that? There’s an app that I that I read, I use it for myself, and I recommend it for my coaching clients. And it’s an app called Mood Meter, the Mood Meter app, and it’s not my app, I don’t get a piece of juice, I have no idea who it is. But I use it. I use it for with all my leaders, and it is fire. Very simple. It’s cost 99 cents on the App Store. And it takes literally 15 to 20 seconds to fill out. It asks you two questions. What are you feeling? And what are the causes of that feeling? Or where did that feeling come from? Why are you feeling that way? And it’s literally it takes 2030 seconds to fill that out. And it’s a it’s a really neat app. And I love where technology and emotional intelligence can kind of come together and create some some neat, neat tools and systems. So what I recommend to people is how do you begin a new habit, attach it to a habit, you’ve already got a few ways that I recommend leaders begin this new habit of using and filling out this mood meter app a few times, you know, three to five times a week. And if you can, if you can do it a couple times a day to that’s even better. Because then the other thing too that’s cool about the mood meter app is that it starts to develop data. It creates data on when you filled out this particular motion. So now it does charts and graphs with okay, hey, Jerry. It looks like in the mornings, you kind of have a number of unpleasant emotions in the mornings. What’s going on? Are you sleeping enough that You can start to look at trends and patterns and stuff. But what I recommend is when starting a new habit again, attach it to a habit. So multiple ways to do that. One idea that I give to leaders is, we eat typically two to three times a day before you eat, make that a positive trigger. Before you put something in your mouth, you got to check in with yourself really quick and fill out that mood meter app. That’s one idea to begin that new habit of filling out your mood meter app and just checking in. The second idea that I give to leaders is a lot of leaders have meetings throughout the day, before you walk into any meeting, take 20 seconds, fill out that mood meter app, just check in emotionally so that you don’t bring in unwanted emotions into a meeting that could potentially sabotage that meeting. So it’s a nice little checkup, when you’re with yourself before you walk into a meeting. That’s another idea. The third idea that I recommend leaders is meeting again, I just haven’t pick whichever one of those these three options is fits them the best is when you’re as soon as your butt sits, hits the car, right. So if you if you go into to a job, and your butt hits that car, if you walk out of the house, you finish breakfast, soon as you buy his car before you put the key into the ignition, check in with yourself real quick, how are you doing, or before you get out of your car, and walk into your place of employment, fill that out real quick another and then the other time is, as soon as you pull into the driveway. Before before you walk into the house, check in with yourself real quick, again, so you don’t bring in any unwanted or unnecessary emotional energy that is unpleasant into your home. And now you impact your home environment with any unpleasant emotions.

Jerry Dugan  21:32

So this isn’t just a log of how I’m feeling right now this can actually influence a shift in your mood, because now you’re cognizant of it. And you’re like, Okay, I don’t want to bring that inside.

Noble Gibbens  21:41

That’s exactly right. Absolutely. So it helps to increase both self awareness and also begins to as your awareness increases, it can also help begin working on the self management piece to

Jerry Dugan  21:51

Nice. So for anybody out there, if you’re thinking $1 doesn’t buy you much these days, because of inflation, this dollar will actually change your life if you get it and apply it and, and leverage triggers or habits, you already have to also include this quick little task. I love that. Now you do trainings and workshops for corporations, companies, businesses, what does that look like? What does that entail? How? Yeah, talk us through that?

Noble Gibbens  22:20

Yeah, great. That’s a great question. So I’ve got access. I’m certified in the it’s called Emotional Intelligence, 2.0, EQI 2.0 assessment. And it’s a scientific psychometric assessment, that I call it your emotional before photo. So it gives you a snapshot of where you’re at, in 15, different areas of emotional intelligence. And then based on, on how that leader assesses on their before photo, their emotions, emotional intelligence, then I can build a coaching program, that’s kind of the one on one. So but what I’ll do for a company is for those leaders that want that assessment, then I’ll have to take those assessments. And then I will come at the beginning of the day with those assessments in my hand, and I’ll give them the first part of the day, a workshop on how to read the assessment. What does the assessment mean? What are the 15 different areas, or subscales, of emotional intelligence that this assessment assesses you in? And then then once we are, then we’ll take a little break. And then I give everyone their assessment after that break. And of course, there’s a couple of disclaimers that I give them because it’s very sobering for a lot of leaders who receive these assessments, right? Because a lot of them right there. A lot of the folks I work with are senior leaders, right? So they are not, these are not under achievers. These are the majority of people I work with are high achievers, overachievers. And so they have not sucked in anything for many, many years, at least to their understanding or awareness, right. And so they get back their EQ assessment, this scientific psychometric assessment, like, Oh snap, they’ve got in many cases, some glaring areas, a lack of emotional intelligence, and some of these different 15 different areas, that that can be very sobering. So and then of course, I give tools and practical application for how to start growing these different areas of emotional intelligence. That’s kind of what a workshop looks like. And then we’ll even go into what is this particular team right if it’s a team of leaders, what what are some what are some areas of emotional intelligence of those 15 different areas that this team needs to to adopt and use as a team? What are the top three areas? What are the bottom three areas of emotional intelligence that maybe because the nature of the roles responsibilities of this team? They don’t need of those three years right so that they can focus and focus their time and effort

Jerry Dugan  24:53

nice and what kind of like Action Plan Do they come out with? Like, I guess what skills do they bring out of that? At knowing who they are, what kind of triggers them what, how it fits in with other folks like, like, what? Yeah, what do they do with it on a day to day after they’re done with working with you in that session?

Noble Gibbens  25:12

Yeah, great question. So, it again, it depends on which are their top two or three areas of emotional intelligence they have to work on, let me I’m going to break these down here. And I’m looking at my my slide here. So if you see me on youtube looking away, that’s what I’m looking at. So the five main areas of emotional intelligence of my particular model that I am certified in, there’s tons of different emotional intelligence models out there. But this particular one that I have access to self perception, self expression, interpersonal decision making, and stress management, those are the five main areas and then each of those five manners is broken down into three sub areas. So if for example, a team a leadership team needs to work on interpersonal, then we’re going to hone and refine and come up with two or three action steps that that leadership team can all work on individually and collectively, to grow and develop the interpersonal area of emotional intelligence that they need to develop. Yeah, maybe it’s for another leadership team, maybe it’s stress management, maybe, because it’s a high pressure high stress environment for that leadership team, then we’re going to come up with two or three different exercises, action steps that they can work on to grow and develop their stress management skills. So it just kind of depends on which of those five main areas that they’re wanting, or needing to work on.

Jerry Dugan  26:34

Nice, nice, I noticed he kept the count to like less than three, three or less. Kind of the rule of three, right? Like, if you have seven goals, or 20, your chances of accomplishing those are way lower than if you have two or three focused, laser focused approaches.  Awesome. So like if people want to reach out to you and say, Alright, I want this noble guy to help fix my company, because we just, we don’t know how to get along. Out of folks. Fine, noble Gibbons.

Noble Gibbens  27:03

So yeah, great question. It’s so funny, you said that, because I just had an HR lady reached out to me, I’ve got a survey, a pre coaching, or pre cons pre consulting questionnaire, and it was literally she’s an HR lady. And there’s a lot of dysfunction and a lot of tension between some of the different teams within her company. And she’s like, Dude, can you can you help a sister out? I think so. EQ gangster.com is the website and there’s a there’s a number of different tabs on EQ ganesha.com, where there’s different ways to connect with me and work with me and stuff. That would be where I would send folks to his EQ gangster.com.

Jerry Dugan  27:42

Nice. Yeah. And don’t let the title fool you guys. I mean, EQ gangster. I mean, yes, like right now I’m looking into it. He’s tatted up, he’s got a beard. He looks like he’s in a biker gang. But he’s like a gentle giant. He’s in touch with his emotions. He’s got that self awareness helps others gain that self awareness. So you definitely want to check out not just EQ gangster.com But go on podcasts, Apple podcasts, Spotify, you’re on YouTube as well. And check out the show because not only does he share his insights, but he brings other experts in to share their stories to share their expertise around the topic of emotional intelligence. Any final words of wisdom for our audience before we go?

Noble Gibbens  28:21

Yes, Jerry. So first of all, thank you for having me. It’s been awesome. You rock like ZZ Top row, or New Kids on the Block, whichever. A couple, a couple handful of quotes I’d like to share with folks. One is emotionally healthy people help heal other people emotionally. Emotionally Healthy People help heal other people emotionally. Number two, emotionally healthy leaders create emotionally healthy cultures and organizations, which maximize and optimize outcomes and results. The third thing I say is, if you don’t deal with your emotional issues, your friends, family, co workers and colleagues will be forced to

Jerry Dugan  29:06

Wow, man powerful. That’s why I let folks have their final words of wisdom. Noble one. glad that we got to catch up, too. Great to have you on the show.

Noble Gibbens  29:17

Thank you, brother. This has been awesome, man. totally appreciate it, bro.

Jerry Dugan  29:20

You just heard from noble Gibbons about how we can be better leaders through self awareness of our emotional impacts on others, creating an action plan to improve our emotional intelligence and have an accountability through tools like the mood meter app. Now if you’d like what you heard in this episode, be sure to hit the share button on however you’re listening to this show right now and share it with someone you feel would appreciate listening in as well. You can also get bonus resources and connect with noble through the show notes at beyond the rut.com/three to six. Now I’m glad you joined me this week, and I look forward to joining you again next week. But until next time, go live life If beyond the rut, take care.

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